Friday, April 17, 2009

Are Democrats subverting the election process by not requiring valid photo ID's be presented before voting?

Yes or No? Why or Why Not? What say you?

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/417713.html


Democrats think that letting convicted felons and people not eligible to vote will vote for them since they're soft on crime, so they want to dilute the vote of eligible Americans. They want illegal aliens to vote and think people likely to commit voter fraud will help them get elected.

Republicans are apparently more interested in creating yet another divisive political issue, than they are examining the merits of the case.

This is another one of those nonsense right wing non-problems. In real life it's hard to get more than 50% of elegible voters to the polls, much less non-elegible voters. How many 'illegals' actually vote anyway? And if a few do they're just as likely to vote for the republican as the democrat so it's a wash. While picture ID is always a good thing, we've had elections for over 200 years without picture ID. No problems that I know of. Besides that, how do you really know that the picture ID is real? There's so much BS identification out there now that anyone who needs papers can get them. I wish the republicans would take the lead on some really important issues.....the environment...health insurance...energy....climate change...border security....getting out of the middle east...balance of payments...under-employment...social and physical infrastructure...the national debt...education...soil erosion...flood control...crime in the suites and the dozens of swindles that screw Americans out of their money....like this business with sub-prime loans. If the Eisenhower republicans were still in charge those would be the parties issues....not gays, 'God' and abortion. Now that the right wing talk show bozos and FOX have convinced so many people that the non-existant 'liberals' want to raise their taxes, take their guns, open the borders and promote the gay agenda 'somebody' has to take charge.....but that's the problem. The fascisti nitwits of the GOP, like a dog chasing a car, caught the car...now they have no idea what to do with it. Dumb and dumber...don't vote for these guys until they learn to behave.

Don't we have bigger issues to worry about, here? We seem to be having a problem with Osama's latest message, don't we?

All of the squabbling about what defines a legitimate ID, whether to have the ID, it's all petty argument of an issue which is handled by each state, which makes it's own decisions. Every state sets their own primary, every state runs their election. Let the states handle it. Most states require ID for first-time voters who register by mail, anyway, and who's going to go out in public without their ID? It's not as if the pollers show up at your doorstep and demand you to find the ID that fell down between the cushions of your sofa. Voters get out of their houses and go vote, and SHOULD have their ID with them, regardless of why they are out in public.

If you live in a state where you believe the law can be changed, lobby your representative or your political party to create and enact a law to govern the absentee ballot frauds, which cries the most for reform.

no it may speed the process up a little .but if your going to go through the hastle of voting twice getting a fake id wouldnt be to hard .this law is leading down the road to a police state dont you think.home land security said they couldnt slow down illegals coming into this country cause there were just to many ids they couldnt disprove.strange i thought republicans were for less gov and less laws i guess thats why im an ex republican the big worry to me would be the polling machines and voter intimidation on site.with the computers you could block out or erase mega votes its a sad day for america when our freedoms are so at stake it would be nice if the republicans looked at what their policies and actions are doing to our nation and the world this good ol boy thing is grim

Republicans have publicly stated that making it harder to vote helps them. Many poor people, especially in urban areas, do not have drivers licenses and this is the only available photo ID in many states.

The basis of voting has ALWAYS been that you must prove to the election commission that you exist, not prove at the polls.

What is really amazing is that while no voter fraud by pretending to be someone else has ever been proven, illegally denying persons their right to vote is common and many people have been sent to jail (Republicans have even bragged of their "caging" operations to remove Democratic voter, even soldiers serving in Iraq.)

Why is it that we concentrate on single, poor voters and ignore massive institutional voter fraud? (Did you realize 4 Republicans are in prison now for manipulating votes/denying voter access in Ohio in 2004?)

Edit: BTW you do have to have some ID to vote now, just not a photo ID.

no, the picture id is a scheme by Republicans to suppress the votes for Democrats.There is no widespread vote fraud problem to be addressed. As noted in your link:

Terence T. Evans: “Let’s not beat around the bush: The Indiana voter photo ID law is a not-too-thinly veiled attempt to discourage election-day turnout by certain folks believed to skew Democratic,” Evans wrote.

That link you posted the best you got ? Pathetic.

Absolutely Yes.....Because Democrats do will do ANYTHING for a Vote including PANDERING to ANY PREDICATE FELON OR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT ALLIEN by rewarding them with entitlement programs for free housing, food stamps, education & medicaid health care + amnesty & citizenship.----Even photo ID's are a joke unless they also have a fingerprint ID.--- I once found a Woman's Handbag, which had been tossed out of a car at a Bridge Toll Booth, containing nothing but 21 Medicaid Cards with 21 different names & 21 different ID numbers with the same woman's photo on each of the 21 cards.

You should have to present a valid ID to vote. In many stores I have to present a valid ID to use a credit card -- it would be ridiculous to let people vote without a valid ID!!

Well,I guess that means the dead can't vote for the Dems anymore.

No they're just reverting back to the Constitutional Representative Republic. DEMOCRACY has stepped on their toes. And they're not liking it. Neither will the Republic. They're being boxed in for exposure. They're trying to play both sides. Give it time. Remember what really happened in 2006.

No republicans are perverting the voting process by creating laws that are unconstitutional.

anything to get those 13 million illegals voting!!

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