I really like the way this horse looks and his coloring is awesome, but his problems are a little disheartening.
Does anyone think that this horses "problem" can be solved at 11 years old.. as they tend to get "set" in their ways.. or if worked with, could the problem be solved.. any info will be great.
i will post the 2 different adds that i have of him.
Thanks!!
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/grd/1083597058.html
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/grd/1067237551.html
hope those work
Granted that if a good trainer had gotten a hold of this gelding when he was younger, things might have been different, but that didn't happen and he isn't going to change now....take my advise and continue to search Craigslist, there are lots of good, honest horses on there for reasonable prices...leave this gelding alone. I guarentee, those that are telling you that all you have to do is start slow, lunge him, etc, etc, etc....he will be wonderful, haven't a clue as to what they are talking about, not a clue.
Yes you can train him. Start with Lunging and just making him very calm with you and the environment around him. I don't know about breaking him, I would recommend that you do as I said and try to get through to him and you may be able to break him but it will take time. It has been 11 years of not being broken it will be completely new to him o don't rush into anything to fast something could go wrong.
Hope I Helped!
I think if you are as expirienced as that horse needs you to be, he could be a good project. Before you start training him though- earn his trust, do simple things like bringing him a treat everytime he sees you or talking calmly to him while letting him graze while still haltered. Hopefully and over time, he will become a great mount, you know what they say- the best horses are always the most hard to train (or something like that, i dont remember exactly.) Have Fun!
I believe it's possible, but it really depends on what specifically the horse is protesting against. I would highly reccomend against it, though. If you're going to put all that effort into a horse, you would do better with a younger horse with a "clean slate." There are plenty of nicer horses for cheap with coloring you will probably like that are much better.
It's possible to train him. I'm not sure how, but horses are alot smarter then dogs. Theres no saying, "You can't teach an old horse new tricks." If you know how to break a horse, do what you have to! If you don't, call a trainer to help!
BUT, take into consideration that theres a reason they can't break him. It could be his owners, but it could be true that he is, unbreakable. I say just do what your heart is telling you to do.
Hope this helps!
hi,
He is very pretty. I would think that since he is for so cheap you could find someone that has experience with problem horses and start there. or if needed you could start the training. Start lunging a lot with her.
good luck!
I agree with your boyfriend.... pass, pass, pass, on this horse. They are being honest when they tell you how bad he is.
And 14.5 is not rounded up to 15 hands.. it is 15.1 hands! (4" to the hand)
I'm sorry,
I don't think it would be a good idea, hes already 11,
by the time you train him properly, who knows how old he'll be,
coloring isnt everything...
I'm an old boy from Kentucky and we know horses. If you don't like an 11-year-old horse just the way he/she is, don't touch him/her with a dirty stick.
yeah
Granted it sounds like the previous owner probably has NO CLUE about horses (as per the fact that she is using him as a companion to a stallion, can't measure, and doesn't have a clue what to do to get him ready to accept the saddle and bridle), but if you have to ask this question it would seem to me that possibly you don't know enough about horses yourself to take on this challenge either. If you aren't well experienced with breaking horses, then you could ruin this horse even further - or you or the horse could get hurt. And it could ruin your enthusiasm for horses.
I would bet this horse could be broken by a professional without any extra hassles. But it could take a long time, and then he will still be green for a long time (possibly years).
Consider taking a professional trainer with you to view the horse first to see what he or she thinks. The way the owner behaves with the horse will tell the trainer alot also. Also have the horse vet checked to see if it has a medical problem that is causing it pain, and have a professional check to see if maybe the saddle they were using was a correct fit (and not painful).
If you do decide to take on the challenge, I would recommend taking a Parelli beginning class or buying a seven games book.
With the proper training and enough patience, love, and time, I think that any horse can be trained. He sounds like he might have been abused in the past, with the way he goes crazy when a saddle or bridle is put on him. It all depends on how experienced you are and if you have experience training horses, even ones that someone else calls "unbreakable." If you don't have the experience, do you have the money to invest in a gentle, patient trainer who can work with the horse long-term? It sounds like it's going to be a long ride if you do buy this horse.
With all that being said, the horse is gorgeous and seems to be nicely built from the picture. If you've got the time, patience, experience, and compassion to work with this horse, then I would encourage you to go for it. He's only $250, which is quite a bargain for a horse. That leaves you a lot of money for hiring a trainer if you need to!
Well no wonder she cant break him. She has him listed at 14.5 hands which isn't even a real measurement, and then when she tries to sell him off at 15 hands, she says he's a pony.
I wouldn't buy him based on his looks and his colouring. Of course his problem can be solved at 11 years old, it is just going to take awhile and you may find yourself exactly where this person is right now, frustrated and with an unwanted gelding. With this economy, don't expect to be able to re sell him if it doesn't work out - people aren't buying horses right now, let alone middle aged untrained ones.
I would think very hard before buying him.
Why does she have him listed at 2 different prices?
The price is right. But consider the time and money you will have in him to get him rideable. May not be worth the effort. On the other hand, he may be breakable under the right hands.
Personally I would not. ( I don't bounce like I used too, lol )
You do not know why he is that way, and like I said, you may end up putting a couple thousand in him just to ride. You can certainly buy a broke one for that much.
Best of luck on your decision.
I totally disagree with ILove, this horse is breakable at 11. No horse is a lost cause, especially if they have had human interaction their entire life. He makes me think that he is way smarter than they are giving him credit for. Like my horse, he looks for your weak spot and then as soon as he figures out what he thinks will make you leave him alone he does it till you leave him alone. If you are really experienced then I would say go for it, but keep in mind that there are going to be some big "fights" for control if you get him. You will have to get him to respect you from day one and never let him lose that respect, because he will walk all over you. Have you ever broken a horse before? If not then I wouldn't recommend buying him, it wouldn't be impossible but you can't make mistakes with that kind of horse. Basically if you get him you can't let him get away with anything and even if he goes completely ballistic you can't just quit because he will think he has "won" and will be even worse next time. Best of Luck!
I'm sorry, but this is simply not a good idea!
Buying an "unbreakable" horse is just asking for trouble...a steaming wad of it!
If he were a young horse, it **MIGHT** be different, but at this point I think it would take harsh training with a professional, and even after that, he would never be trusting, or trustworthy, and he will probably always be dangerous!
The fact that you had to ask this question tells me you are not ready to handle a horse like him.
I think that this horse (probably entirely due to the owners training methods, or lack thereof) is permanently scarred, and ruined.
Sure, he can be trained. 11 isn't that old, he's just barely mature! However, rearing is a huge and dangerous issue. If you want to buy him, I would suggest pricing trainers first. Consider whatever the price is for 30 days of professional training in your area a part of his purchase price. At 11, his "problems" probably stem from some of the "training methods" used on him in the past.
The price is right, but he's got one of the most dangerous training issues a horse can have. Put some thought into this one.
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